I liked Scooter too. but he's not hot so I'm really not going to miss him. I will def not miss amber. (cut throat bitch, right?) I like the jewish guy. Kal is ok but I'm not that into him.

I've been cruising the boards for over an hour (including reading all of this thread, may it continue to grow) trying to get my shit together after watching this ep and have totally failed. I fell apart at House's "I told you so." I think I would've been OK if the view from Foreman's boss' (Mercy!Cuddy's) office hadn't been of downtown NYC, with that blue blue sky. But that, combined with the watching someone slip away who is fully conscious, in pain, and aware of their own death; House & the POTW rushing towards and courting death; all of that contrasted with the liveliness and humor and youth of the competing fellows . . . :cry: Boo hoo fishcakes. The important thing is that H/W is on ur teevee show, gayin' ur canon. :wub:

HOUSE SAID TO WILSON I LOVE YOU HOUSE SAID TO WILSON I LOVE YOU HOUSE SAID TO WILSON I LOVE YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'M GOING TO HAVE A HEARTATTACK

Jouse! Please don't die on us! We'll miss you too much! Besides, you need to stick around to see where this storyline is taking us...

And also, according to House, there isn't anything out there.

That begs the question, though-- earlier (and I know somany of us were blindsighted by the "I love you", because I CERTAINLY WAS), when Wilson first asked House if he saw anything, House avoids the question and claims to need to speak to the guy who was in the car accident. Wilson tells him that he died and then asked if he saw anything, to which House says "no", though HL's face and tone express otherwise. I think there was some ambiguity there. Either that or poor/faulty writing, which I for one absolutely refuse to believe is possible of TPTB on this show. The end line, while tragic and a good last hook, dramatic and all, still didn't convince me that House hadn't seen anything. I'm not affiliated with any religion and don't believe in an afterlife, so this is not me grasping for straws that support my personal dogma or anything. I really don't know what we're supposed to think.

House can say whatever he wants, but I firmly believe heaven is out there and consists of 72 copulating Houses and Wilsons. A slightly more coherent review.. :oops: I'm on the fence about House's (yet another) near death experience, but leaning in favour of Fern and the rest who saw it as lazy recycling. It smelled old, and even worse - inconsistent (gasp!) with the way House was behaving since mid-late 3rd season. We've all seen he's taking less vicoding and being much less miserable as a whole. Putting your life is danger, even in a hospital, is an act that requires a very specific state of mind. If he honestly doesn't care that much about his life and/or that much desperate to find meaning for risking them, we need to see it. Con-sis-tent-ly. Pick it up, PTB. (And I don't mean emo!House taking over, but fun and games and rockon! one minute, to almost killing himself the next just doesn't fly). OTOH, House has been reflective of his life by the end of season 3. I did get the feeling he wants more out of his life than solving puzzles and popping pills 'til his liver shuts down. And it has giving us THE SCENE *pulling hairs out in joy* I'm all for House's quest for meaning, I just wish they haven't taken this route. Again. bahh TL:DR, Sorry. And on the HAWT and GAAAHH end - Wilson in a green shirt is dangerous for your health. House waking up to see Wilson at his bedside.. Thousands of fics did a cyber-flipflop. I bet the LJ sick!House comm and all the hurt/comfort H/W ppl are losing it. Wilson says "it hurts just looking at you".. Oh God. And the way HL delivered that line....... *runs back to the gayness threads*

Jumping off hoyay for just a moment (SORRY!) . . . In thinking more about POTW and his dog, I think it IS possible that he fed his dog the pills. The vet told us the dog was "really old." If we assume POTW wanted to die -- and thus didn't take the pills -- he might have given them to the dog b/c he didn't want to leave his faithful companion alone (we saw no friends or relatives who would take him) to await a painful death. As a dog lover, I could totally see doing this -- IF my dog was very old and I didn't know who would take him/her if I died. That said, I'm not sure POTW would know that those pills would kill the dog; not all human pills do. Nor that the dog would die so quiety (dog could have first had symptoms). But, I think it's at least a fair possibility that the end was designed to show that they'd been devoted to each other in life and were destined to be together in death. And, BTW, I do mean the POTW and his dog. :)

And Wilson quoting My Fair Lady? So gay. I love him. You do know the story of My Fair Lady? About the grumpy older man falling in love with the young girl he's educating....... (I hate Ham, but had to point this out)

Loved it so much. Can't wait to rewatch,I know there is much more to be seen next time. Favorite scene-House and Wilson. I am a firm believer in their platonic friendship.It will survive anything,stealing RX pads,the Lie,anything. Because they do love each other.Period.I love the portrayal of two complicated,complex,flawed men who may not know each other as well as they think they do,and who make a lot of mistakes with each other,but really do care. You don't see that too much anywhere. Also,the dialogue can be taken so many ways.To a casual fan who watches because they just like the show,(my husband),Wilson's line about hurting to see House in pain and House's I love you is easily accepted as just a doctor caring for a patient and getting thanked. But to people invested so heavily in the show that they join this board,(me), it has many meanings.Wilson could be talking about just this latest stunt of House's,or the fact that he sees House in pain(more than one kind of pain), every single day,and it hurts him.House's reply is not a light thank you to me,he means it.Or you can see the slash.Lots of food for thought. I loved the Chase scene,but I still have the same problem with Cameron I had last week.I understand that the fellows have to come back on a different footing with House,but I just don't get her deal.She had the same(actually worse) smug superior smile as last episode.Is it payback for all the crap she took from him for three years that she doesn't have to take any more? Is she really trying to hurt him and rub his nose in something? I see him as still badly off his game through the whole episode.He had no comeback to her remark,that's not normal.He usually only lets people see what he wants them to see.Does she realize he's vulnerable and is taking advantage of it?It's not that I think she should be nice to him,or even sympathetic,but I just don't get what she's doing.Or am I totally off base,not for the first time?

I'm intending on composing a list of all of Wilson's stereotypically gay references. And the thing that I really LOVE about cut-throat-bitch is the complete lack of flirtiness between House and her. Mazal Tov! After 4 seasons, TPTB have finally managed to create a single, female character that doesn't find House attractive. I like her better than Cam and 13, not only but mainly because of this.

By this point, I'm kind of tired of being a wet blanket. But I'm really not enjoying this whittling down of people that I maybe, someday, might give a shit about. Right now they're just cluttering up the show and being tossed into dramatic turns that I should care about, but don't because I have no connection to them. To compare and contrast, in the pilot and the first few episodes of the S1, I could immediately embrace the characters---all the characters---because I was getting to know all of them at once. The dynamic of introducing an entire soccer team's worth of players and expecting me to bond while teasing me with the original folks lingering, tauntingly, in the wings is just counter-productive. Dramatically, I'm not sure it works for "13" to be in such dispair at the end of the episode. I know nothing about her, not even her name, so how can I possibly be upset on her behalf that they lost their patient? I think there's a reason that it took so long in the first few seasons for the original team to lose a patient; we had to know those characters good and well for an accidental death to really resonate. I had to know their strengths, their weaknesses, their work ethic, their previous brilliant saves and their philosophies before I could begin to put a patient death into perspective for those characters. How on earth am I supposed to do this at the current stage of the game? I agree with everything you said. I DO NOT CARE about poor wittle 13. She made a stupid mistake in not seeing that the guy took the pills and there were no mitigating factors. It was just carelessness--doubly so because the guy needed so much assistance with even the little things that she should have been more alert to his needs. Forever was one of the first episodes I saw and I STILL felt much more of an impact from Jesse Spencer's performance with his "dead baby" reactions than I did from 13 and I didn't know Chase much better than I know 13. It was, in fact, Forever and that scene with Chase that made me tune back in the next week. The character was compelling. The actor made me feel it. The writing floored me--seeing a man of science was also a man of faith. That told me House was a different show. If I had tuned into this show for the first time this week , nothing would have compelled me to give it another shot. I would have thought, "Eh, what's the big deal?"

I was cheering too. Let the man believe what he wants to believe. What good will it do to have him believing nothing's out there? As I've said before, I know House attacks anything and everything about people but when he attacks religion it just gets under my skin. I can definitely see Wilson's point but I found House's position valid as well. I think his dedication to the truth is touching and his attitude toward the patient, while perhaps cruel, is at least honest while Wilson's isn't; Wilson's position is very conventional and is also extremely condenscending. Wilson has already written him off while House is still engaging him authentically in the only way he knows how. But maybe that's what the patient--most patients--wants. I guess it's a matter of what you value more--comfort or honesty. It reminds me of the scene with Addie (?) when House was on the ADs and couldn't stop trying to tell her why she dying even though she didn't care; his need to keep seeking as much information as he can about objective reality right up to (and beyond!) the bitter end is the thing that matters to him. He's not just being a heartless bastard--he's relating in the only way he can.