3.24 Human Error

What struck me was the fact that in that rather crucial scene in which House seems to realise that he is quite happy with his team leaving, it is not Wilson, but Esteban he 'celebrates' with. Any ideas as to why TPTB took that road? It seemed like such a typical H-W scene. I can think of three reasons: A) As boffle mentioned, it shows that he's capable to relating to new people. B) Wilson just spent a few weeks telling House that he should change and perhaps there was still some conflict there. And C) TPTB probably felt that the POtW story needed some closure.

I just noticed in Cameron's final scene. She says "I expect you to do what you always do. I expect you to make a joke and go on. I expect you to be just fine. I'll miss you," and she strokes his arm. The music is the same as in the lead-up to their kiss in Half-Wit. I guess we were supposed to feel some sexual tension at that moment -- maybe now is the time, they'll get together and she'll take back her resignation. It's hard to remember back to what I thought at that moment, before I knew what came after, but I don't think I felt any sexual tension between them then, especially as we had just seen Cameron show up at Chase's place where she said it was Tuesday.

I just noticed in Cameron's final scene. She says "I expect you to do what you always do. I expect you to make a joke and go on. I expect you to be just fine. I'll miss you," and she strokes his arm. The music is the same as in the lead-up to their kiss in Half-Wit. I guess we were supposed to feel some sexual tension at that moment -- maybe now is the time, they'll get together and she'll take back her resignation. It's hard to remember back to what I thought at that moment, before I knew what came after, but I don't think I felt any sexual tension between them then, especially as we had just seen Cameron show up at Chase's place where she said it was Tuesday. I'm not sure what the deal was on recycling the music, either, but I didn't think the resignation scene was supposed to be at all one of sexual tension.

I just noticed in Cameron's final scene. She says "I expect you to do what you always do. I expect you to make a joke and go on. I expect you to be just fine. I'll miss you," and she strokes his arm. The music is the same as in the lead-up to their kiss in Half-Wit. I guess we were supposed to feel some sexual tension at that moment -- maybe now is the time, they'll get together and she'll take back her resignation. It's hard to remember back to what I thought at that moment, before I knew what came after, but I don't think I felt any sexual tension between them then, especially as we had just seen Cameron show up at Chase's place where she said it was Tuesday. I'm not sure what the deal was on recycling the music, either, but I didn't think the resignation scene was supposed to be at all one of sexual tension. I didn't think so either, struck me more as nostalgia (for her and us).

I think that, as usual, it was Cameron manufacturing sexual tension. She was trying to be "sexy" and "flirtatious" with the arm brush and the "I'll miss you." It was like she was taking one last desperate attempt—one last go at House—before going off to join Chase. When that episode first aired, I actually rolled my eyes and wanted to yell at Cameron to give it a rest. Upon re-watch, I usually fast-forward through that scene, as I find it quite cringe-worthy.

Upon re-watch, I usually fast-forward through that scene, as I find it quite cringe-worthy. Everytime I watch this episode I look away when Camerson stands up to do the arm grab and I miss you thing. Cringe worty indeed. I almost put my fingers in my ears and say "la la la la". I love the Foreman-House thing at the end. I could watch that scene over and over. Hugh Laurie is brilliant.

Everytime I watch this episode I look away when Camerson stands up to do the arm grab and I miss you thing. Cringe worty indeed. I almost put my fingers in my ears and say "la la la la". Glad to know I'm not the only one who has this reaction! :lol: I love the Foreman-House thing at the end. I could watch that scene over and over. Hugh Laurie is brilliant. Are you referring to the scene in which House furiously eats a peanut butter sandwich while furiously calling out Foreman on his crap? Yea, I could watch that scene over and over too. I hate Foreman, so I tire of his scenes quickly. But I love watching House yell at him. I love watching House eat—and I love watching him eat and talk at the same time. :oops: Hugh Laurie is indeed brilliant. He can eat and talk at the same time, and my reaction is the opposite of being grossed out. (Or perhaps that is just my own pathology.)

Are you referring to the scene in which House furiously eats a peanut butter sandwich while furiously calling out Foreman on his crap? Yes I am. When he says "I need you" and he's like shaking the sandwich. You just know how hard it was for him to say that. You just totally felt for him. I think it's one of my favorite House scenes. I don't hate Foreman, but I really dislike him at times. But I really disliked him during the whole quitting thing. So yes, it was great to hear House yell at him- even if he didn't get it.

House: You're an important part of the team, I need you. Foreman: I know. But I don't need you, and I definitely don't want to be you. You're miserable. The "I don't need you" solidified my Foreman hatred and I don't think anything could make me like the character again. The best I can do is find him tolerable on occasion. He's actually been one of the most consistently written characters. He's looked down on House since the pilot. He's a snob (e.g. Histories and House Training.) He makes bad, snap judgments about people, especially Chase and House. But it was his "I don't care if you go to jail" rant to Cuddy in Euphoria which finally made me realize what a selfish, hypocritical bastard he is. He incorporates all of House's bad traits and none of his good one. And, as it turned out, he does need House. When all you pick up is the bad, you become unemployable.

House: You're an important part of the team, I need you. Foreman: I know. But I don't need you, and I definitely don't want to be you. You're miserable. The "I don't need you" solidified my Foreman hatred and I don't think anything could make me like the character again. The best I can do is find him tolerable on occasion. One of the things I came to accept is that certain characters on the show aren't necessarily supposed to be likeable. House is likeable in spite of himself, once you see beneath the veneer (though he still does pretty nasty stuff). While House has said that "everybody likes Cameron," Cuddy's also said she isn't as likeable as she thinks she is. Thirteen is not only mocked on the boards, but she's mocked to her face by her co-workers. And Foreman often makes me want to smack him around, especially during the "I'm quitting" arc. I actually kind of admire the fact that the powers that be seem to go out of their way to avoid the "noble physician with a few quirks" stereotype.

One of the things I came to accept is that certain characters on the show aren't necessarily supposed to be likeable. I agree entirely. Out of the 9 regulars, the only one I don't see as being really screwed up is Kutner. Which, if you got to look "behind the scenes" of people in real life, is probably about the correct ratio of well-adjusted to screwed-up people.

One of the things I came to accept is that certain characters on the show aren't necessarily supposed to be likeable. I agree entirely. Out of the 9 regulars, the only one I don't see as being really screwed up is Kutner. Which, if you got to look "behind the scenes" of people in real life, is probably about the correct ratio of well-adjusted to screwed-up people. I agree that all characters are not supposed to be likeable--flaws and antagonism add dimension to a character, after all. They are supposed to be watchable, though, and/or interesting in their flaws and dislikeability. That's where the new team falls apart for me. 13 is particularly unwatchable. Taub is mostly bland to me and Kutner probably holds some promise but we never see it so it hardly matters.

Agree that House-Foreman scene was brilliant, House at first picking and choosing his words to honestly say whyhe wanted Foreman to stay, Foreman's smug reaction, then House telling him the unvarnished truth, all of it, and another sandwich of rage. He was abosulutely right and HL, when given writing this good, just aced it. So strong. And I must admit Epps does a great job of making Foreman a consistent character: he so misses the point when it comes to what makes House great and who he really is. Also, that's a really good insight Namaste. Just as House is a mix of ass and angel, heavy on the ass, they all have genuinely likable as well as obnoxious traits. Wilson's self-righteousness and deviousness, Chase's CYA, Cameron's judgement issues, and so on. Makes them all more human if they do things that are actually craven, wrong-headed, mean and/or full of hubris in addition to the compassion, determination, expertise and hard work they all put in. It's a balancing act, I think, that this show does particularly well: things go out of balance for a while and then get put nearly right only to have something else go lopsided: constant adjustment of balances makes for a dynamic show. Or something like that. :-)

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