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Hail the Random- 08-08-2007
3.20 House Training
From tv.com: The doctors try to find what's wrong with a scam artist who collapses after her brain "freezes," but the case becomes personal for Foreman.

Taiga- 08-11-2007

Does anyone have a transcript for this episode? It's the one episode that the transcript site is missing.

sweet fern- 08-15-2007

No, sorry, no transcript. :( But I caught the rerun last night and omg what a weird episode. Several things I want to comment on: 1. Everyone except House was at one point or another wearing a frigging sweater vest! Well, some of them might have actually had sleeves under the lab coats but you know what I mean...Do people in real life really wear them???? Or is this just a fetish of someone in the wardrobe department? Or does it have some unfathomable meta significance? What is the meaning of sweater vests in the collective unconscious? Cuddy's with the flowery little short-sleeved thingy flapping from underneath was beyond absurd. I felt I had stumbled into the alternate faerie realm of sweater-vests... 2. I know it's too lackluster but I think the title for the shipper thread needs to be "It's not a date." Seriously. Think about it. Close runner-ups from this ep. could be "He always marries them in the end" for a Wilson ship thread and "I'm keeping the receipts for tax purposes" also sums up that certain cynical attitude toward spending time with the opposite sex.... 3. Do it signify something about Foreman, Omar Epps or me (surely not :wink: ) that Foreman has this huge moment of truth fraught with all kinds of angst and revelations about his deepest feelings and fears and just for a cherry on top, his mom not knowing who he is at the end and all I can manage to feel about it is...irritated? And rather bored and a little puzzled that I really don't care? 4. And a new classic Houseism to add to the list: Loss of free will...I like it, and a real gem of Wilsonism: The vortex of your insanity. Gotta love this episode for those two lines if nothing else. Don't know if we've heard it before or not since it's a corner-stone of House's philosophy: Guilt is irrelevent. See, he's not so much a heartless bastard who never feels anything, he's a scientist who doesn't concern himself with things that are irrelevent!

407- 08-16-2007

Hah, the sweater vests attack! I have to say, I love House's talk to Foreman at the end of this episode. I couldn't really say why, but I think it's because I just love seeing House as a teacher.

Taiga- 09-01-2007

Does anyone else think it weird that Chase had this big inquiry and got a suspension for being brusque with a patient in 'The Mistake', but nobody thought twice about Foreman killing a patient by irradiating her for a disease she didn't have? Are we to believe that Wilson talked Lupe's grandparents out of suing her or something? Or may the witchhunt in 'The Mistake' was all done by the evil Stacy?

extra_cat- 09-01-2007

I think saying that the Grandparents weren't suing was their way of getting out of writing The Mistake Part 2. Yeah, it truly lacked continuity. For that matter, how was it that Cameron never came under any inquiry for euthanizing the patient? Was it that easy to cover it up that she killed the guy? It seems like Foreman's decision was a much bigger error in judgement than Chase's error of not asking a question. So, how does that work? Does the hospital initiate the inquiry that leads to suspension/loss of license? Or do you only get suspended if you get sued for malpractice?

saara_zaara- 09-01-2007

I think saying that the Grandparents weren't suing was their way of getting out of writing The Mistake Part 2. ITA - convenient plot device. That said, I also suspect it could have been better used to give Foreman a false sense of security about moving past the yips - that particular issue wasn't well handled to my mind.

blue- 09-01-2007

Does anyone else think it weird that Chase had this big inquiry and got a suspension for being brusque with a patient in 'The Mistake', but nobody thought twice about Foreman killing a patient by irradiating her for a disease she didn't have? Are we to believe that Wilson talked Lupe's grandparents out of suing her or something? Or may the witchhunt in 'The Mistake' was all done by the evil Stacy? Well, remember Chase wasn't being sued (or disciplined) until he actually told the brother that he was drunk and killed his sister, if I'm remembering the timeline correctly. Or I could be totally wrong - they get the notice they're being sued in real episode time, right? So the exam where Chase 'confessed' must have occurred before the actual ep and the brother must have filed a complaint with the board right after it happened. Or not? So confused.

Lully- 09-01-2007

Please correct me if I'm wrong because I didn't watch The Mistake in a long time, but I think that the big difference between Chase's case and Foreman's (and Cameron's in IC) was that Chase assumed the responsability and confessed his mistake. I doubt that Foreman wanted to admit what he did. The consequences are different because her grandparents didn't know what really happened to her, so they didn't sue anyone. ETA: Blue kind of beat me...

saara_zaara- 09-01-2007

blue, Lully, that's correct & a relevant difference between Chase & Foreman's situations. There certainly appeared to be a more proactive effort to keep the details from Lupe's family whereas Chase pretty deliberately lied to bring the blame (& lawsuit) down on him.

Taiga- 09-01-2007

Good point, saara. Chilling to think how that must happen a lot in real life (thinking about how doctor's incompetance killed my grandfather and the doctor shrugged it off by saying "well, he was an old man" :evil:) I think saying that the Grandparents weren't suing was their way of getting out of writing The Mistake Part 2. ...For that matter, how was it that Cameron never came under any inquiry for euthanizing the patient? They didn't actually say the grandparents weren't suing, did they? As for 'Informed Consent', Cuddy pretended to believe that Ezra's death wasn't euthanasia because she thought House had done it. Ah, Cuddy, willing to let House literally kill her patients because he's so gosh darn smart.

misere- 09-03-2007

I don't know how many of you still frequent the site that shall not be named, but I think the best analysis of Chase vs. Foreman/The Mistake vs. House Training has just been posted over there. It warrants being mentioned here. Link.

ChaiKovsky- 09-03-2007

The weird thing for me about this episode is that, by all rules, they should have gotten the diagnosis correct. It was endocarditis caused by a staph infection. To diagnose that, you perform an echocardiogram and/or a "bubble study." Cameron did said bubble study (assuming that, after House gave her permission, she did it). It should have shown the endocarditis. Whiskey tango foxtrot?!

Taiga- 09-03-2007

The reviewer at Polite Dissent said the same thing. To which I can only answer: this is the show where a woman's heart started beating and circulating blood throughout her body while it was still hooked up to bypass equipment.

ChaiKovsky- 09-03-2007

So shouldn't David Shore get the error for that ep?

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